Legislature(2005 - 2006)CAPITOL 120

04/27/2005 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY


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01:22:11 PM Start
01:22:39 PM Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar
01:33:17 PM SB140
01:45:57 PM HB269
02:00:06 PM HB268
02:16:32 PM HB276
02:59:46 PM SB36
03:32:55 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ HB 269 HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCE RELEASE LIABILITY TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+= SB 36 ABSENTEE BALLOTS TELECONFERENCED
Moved HCS CSSB 36(JUD) Out of Committee
+ SB 140 BAN INTERNET SPYWARE TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
+ SJR 12 URGE VOTE ON US SUPREME COURT NOMINEES TELECONFERENCED
Scheduled But Not Heard
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= HB 268 OVERTAKING/PASSING STATIONARY VEHICLES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 268(JUD) Out of Committee
+= HB 276 BUSINESS LICENSE TOBACCO ENDORSEMENT TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Board of Governors of the Alaska Bar
<Continued from 4/25/05>
SB 36 - ABSENTEE BALLOTS                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:59:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE  announced that the  final order of  business would                                                               
be CS FOR  SENATE BILL NO. 36(JUD), "An Act  relating to absentee                                                               
ballots."  [Before the committee was HCS CSSB 36(STA).]                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DAVID STANCLIFF,  Staff to Senator Gene  Therriault, Alaska State                                                               
Legislature,  sponsor, relayed  on behalf  of Senator  Therriault                                                               
that  during last  year's  election  period, some  irregularities                                                               
occurred  regarding  absentee  ballot applications  wherein  some                                                               
applications were  held back, were  made viewable by  the public,                                                               
were changed  after being  signed by the  voter, or  were altered                                                               
such  that they  requested  personal information  from the  voter                                                               
that  the Division  of  Elections doesn't  require.   Because  of                                                               
these irregularities,  SB 36  proposes to  allow the  division to                                                               
authorize the  application form that  will be used,  and proposes                                                               
to require  that applications follow  a direct route  between the                                                               
applicant  and the  division.   Furthermore, he  remarked, intent                                                               
language  added in  the House  State  Affairs Standing  Committee                                                               
ought to ensure that friends  and family members of the applicant                                                               
will be  allowed to deliver  applications to either some  form of                                                               
mail  delivery  service   or  directly  to  the   division.    In                                                               
conclusion,  he  said the  bill  has  had widespread,  bipartisan                                                               
support,  and  that it  is  not  the  sponsor's intent  to  point                                                               
fingers at any particular political party.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:02:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE, after  ascertaining that  no one  else wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on SB 36.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  distributed an  amendment pertaining  to the                                                               
issue of  pre-marking a party  affiliation on an  absentee ballot                                                               
application, and said he might  offer that amendment on the House                                                               
floor.  He then referred to page  2, line 7, and said he wants to                                                               
ensure that registrars  will also be allowed  to deliver absentee                                                               
ballot applications to the division.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANCLIFF  indicated  that   registrars  are  considered  by                                                               
Division of Elections to already be acting on its behalf.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA asked whether  "voter" is statutorily defined                                                               
as also including a registrar.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. STANCLIFF indicated that he  would research that issue before                                                               
the bill is heard on the House floor.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  said he  would like  to offer  a conditional                                                               
conceptual  amendment such  that  the bill  would  refer to  "the                                                               
voter  or authorized  representative",  if it  is  deemed by  the                                                               
drafter that such language is necessary.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANCLIFF noted  that the  bill authorizes  the division  to                                                               
develop  and institute  regulations  to implement  the bill,  and                                                               
suggested that  Representative Gara's  concern will  be addressed                                                               
via regulations.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:05:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA indicated  that  he would  instead have  his                                                               
conditional  conceptual amendment  change the  bill such  that it                                                               
would refer to "voter registrar or authorized representative".                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   GRUENBERG  noted   that  the   drafter,  via   a                                                               
memorandum  dated  3/17/05,  has   recommended  that  the  intent                                                               
language be placed into the bill  itself rather than simply in an                                                               
intent section,  and asked  Mr. Stancliff  whether he  would have                                                               
any objection to such a change.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANCLIFF  offered  his  belief   such  a  change  would  be                                                               
unobjectionable to the sponsor.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  made  a  motion  to  adopt  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1,  to adopt  the drafter's  suggestion of  placing the                                                               
intent  language currently  in Section  1 into  a section  of the                                                               
bill that is  to be codified; such a change  would eliminate what                                                               
is currently  Section 1.   There  being no  objection, Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:08:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA  made a  motion  to  adopt Amendment  2,  to                                                               
insert after  "voter" on page 2,  line 7, the words  ", registrar                                                               
or authorized representative".                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE objected for the purpose of discussion.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. STANCLIFF offered his belief  that the sponsor would consider                                                               
adding "registrar"  to the bill  to be an acceptable  change, but                                                               
not  adding  "authorized  representative".    He  reiterated  his                                                               
understanding  that language  authorizing  registrars to  deliver                                                               
absentee ballots to  the division would not  be necessary because                                                               
they are already considered to be part of the division.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA withdrew Amendment 2.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA made a motion to  adopt a new Amendment 2, to                                                               
insert  after  "voter"   on  page  2,  line  7,   the  words  "or                                                               
registrar".                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR.  STANCLIFF  indicated  that  he   had  no  objection  to  new                                                               
Amendment 2.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE asked  whether there  were any  objections to  new                                                               
Amendment 2.  There being none, new Amendment 2 was adopted.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:09:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA said  he is not sure that he  agrees with the                                                               
change proposed by Section 3 of  the bill - changing the deadline                                                               
by  which the  division must  receive a  request for  an absentee                                                               
ballot from  seven days  to ten  days - adding  that he  does not                                                               
want to make it harder for people to get an absentee ballot.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARA made  a motion  to adopt  [Amendment 3],  to                                                               
delete Section 3 of the bill.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. STANCLIFF explained that the  change proposed by Section 3 of                                                               
the bill  was requested by  the Division of Elections  because it                                                               
wants  more  time  in  which to  fully  process  absentee  ballot                                                               
requests, particularly  given that there  were a large  number of                                                               
such requests  last year.   Without that change, the  Division of                                                               
Elections has predicted,  more people would have to  be hired and                                                               
employees would  have to work  overtime in order process  all the                                                               
requests.   Therefore  it  is a  policy call  as  to whether  the                                                               
legislature wants to give the  division more time or would prefer                                                               
the  division  to  hire  more staff  and  have  everyone  working                                                               
overtime.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  said he would be  objecting [to Amendment                                                               
3], and  indicated that  giving the division  more time  would be                                                               
his preferred  choice, particularly given  how much easier  it is                                                               
these days  for people  to vote absentee.   The  earlier deadline                                                               
will ensure that  all applications are processed in  a timely and                                                               
fair manner.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:12:37 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  A.   GLAISER,  Director,   Central  Office,   Division  Of                                                               
Elections, Office of the Lieutenant  Governor, confirmed that the                                                               
division had  asked for  the extension proposed  by Section  3 of                                                               
the bill.  During the  last election, she explained, the division                                                               
saw  an overwhelming  increase in  absentee ballot  applications,                                                               
and  now considers  the seven-day  deadline  to be  insufficient,                                                               
particularly  given that  once an  application is  received by  a                                                               
regional office of the division, it  must be checked in there and                                                               
then  sent to  the main  office in  Juneau for  final processing.                                                               
This process  alone can  take up  to two  or three  days, leaving                                                               
only four  or five days  for the applicant to  receive, complete,                                                               
and return the  ballot.  The success rate for  absentee voters to                                                               
even get a ballot when their  request is received by the division                                                               
seven days before election day  is [very small]; with a seven-day                                                               
deadline, the  state is being set  up for failure and  the voters                                                               
are being set up to possibly not even receive a ballot.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER  relayed that the  division's interest  in requesting                                                               
the change  proposed by Section 3  was to ensure that  voters get                                                               
an  absentee  ballot.   At  one  point,  the  division -  at  the                                                               
suggestion  of  experienced staff  -  considered  asking for  the                                                               
deadline to be changed to  two weeks, but the lieutenant governor                                                               
said that deadline  was too far out, and so  the compromise was a                                                               
ten-day   deadline.     She  opined   that  Alaskans   have  many                                                               
opportunities to  vote, and the  change proposed by Section  3 of                                                               
the  bill is  the  best way  to ensure  that  an absentee  ballot                                                               
application  sent  by  mail  will  result  in  the  ballot  being                                                               
received by the voter in a timely manner.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL opined  that  in fairness  to the  voter,                                                               
particularly those  serving in  the military, he  is in  favor of                                                               
[the change proposed in the bill].                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  offered  his belief  that  the  change                                                               
proposed by Section  3 of the bill will have  the opposite effect                                                               
of what the division intends.   He opined that military personnel                                                               
should be allowed  to submit a request for an  absentee ballot as                                                               
close as possible to the day of the election.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:17:57 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE COGHILL  acknowledged that  point.  He  then asked                                                               
what  would  happen  if  an application  is  received  after  the                                                               
deadline.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER said that the division would not process it.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  COGHILL said  his  concern is  that such  ballots                                                               
wouldn't be counted.   He said he is interested  in ensuring that                                                               
the division  is able to  handle the absentee  ballot application                                                               
process.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:20:12 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  GLAISER  offered  her   recollection  that  absentee  ballot                                                               
applications can be  sent in beginning January 1 of  the year the                                                               
election takes place.  She noted  that "shut ins"  are afforded a                                                               
"special  needs" voting  process,  and that  military units  have                                                               
voting officers  who are charged  with making sure  that military                                                               
personnel  are  aware  of  the  timelines  pertaining  to  voting                                                               
absentee;  additionally,   military  personnel  have   their  own                                                               
applications  and  can  become Uniformed  and  Overseas  Citizens                                                               
Absentee Voting  Act (UOCAVA) voters.   She also noted  that last                                                               
year  the division  received a  request  to set  up early  voting                                                               
sites in certain military bases a few days prior to deployment.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER opined that the voting  process isn't so narrow as to                                                               
preclude  one  from  choosing  to vote  absentee  via  mail,  but                                                               
acknowledged that last year many  waited until the last minute to                                                               
apply for  an absentee ballot.   She pointed out that  last year,                                                               
there were  people who did  not receive their absentee  ballot in                                                               
time  even though  division personnel  worked up  until the  last                                                               
minute  attempting to  ensure that  all absentee  ballot requests                                                               
were filled.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:22:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE acknowledged that  with a seven-day deadline, there                                                               
is the likelihood  that voters won't get the chance  to get their                                                               
absentee ballot  returned to  the division  in time,  and pointed                                                               
out  that  absentee  ballots from  military  personnel  stationed                                                               
oversees might be further delayed.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER, in response to a  question, said that last year, the                                                               
division attempted to get absentee ballots  sent out up to just a                                                               
few days  prior to  the election, but  still got  complaints from                                                               
people  who  didn't receive  their  ballot  in time  even  though                                                               
division personnel  worked day  and night in  an attempt  to fill                                                               
requests.   In response to  another question, she  indicated that                                                               
as election  day drew  near, when it  became clear  that absentee                                                               
ballots being sent out so late  that they were not going to reach                                                               
the  voters  in  time,  division personnel  resorted  to  calling                                                               
voters in order to facilitate voting via fax.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:25:43 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  offered his understanding that  one can                                                               
vote up  to midnight  on election  day, and that  a vote  must be                                                               
counted as  long as the  ballot is  received by the  applicant by                                                               
that time.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR McGUIRE pointed  out that the director of  the division has                                                               
been attempting  to explain that  the current  seven-day deadline                                                               
is not sufficient, that the division  needs more time in which to                                                               
ensure  that those  applying for  absentee ballots  receive their                                                               
ballots in  time to have their  vote counted, and that  a ten-day                                                               
deadline will afford the division a better chance of success.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG  concurred, but remarked that  there are                                                               
those  who would  receive  a  ballot in  time  under the  current                                                               
deadline.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  McGUIRE  acknowledged  that   point,  but  mentioned  that                                                               
regardless of what the deadline is,  there are those who, for one                                                               
reason or another,  will still not receive an  absentee ballot in                                                               
time to have their vote counted.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:28:23 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA indicated that his  hope is that if Amendment                                                               
3 is  adopted and the  seven-day deadline remains in  place, that                                                               
the  division will  hire the  extra staff  needed to  ensure that                                                               
applicants get their absentee ballots in time.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. GLAISER pointed out that  the division doesn't have the power                                                               
of  appropriation and  therefore cannot  ensure that  the funding                                                               
for  hiring extra  staff  would be  available;  if, however,  the                                                               
funding does end up being  available, the division would hire the                                                               
staff  needed.   She  mentioned  that last  year  no  one at  the                                                               
division expected the 1,300 percent  increase in federal oversees                                                               
ballots.   The division is  asking that the deadline  be extended                                                               
to ten  days in order  to ensure  that more absentee  ballots are                                                               
received in  time.  Meanwhile  the division will also  be looking                                                               
at  ways  to   address  the  issue  of  absentee   ballots.    In                                                               
conclusion, she  reiterated that  she believes the  proposed ten-                                                               
day deadline will  ensure that the most voters  get their ballots                                                               
in a timely manner and can thereby have their votes counted.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GARA  opined that  if Amendment  3 is  adopted, it                                                               
will be  the legislature's  duty to  provide adequate  funding to                                                               
the division.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:31:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
A roll call  vote was taken.  Representatives  Gruenberg and Gara                                                               
voted  in  favor  of  Amendment   3.    Representatives  McGuire,                                                               
Anderson,  Coghill,   Kott,  and  Dahlstrom  voted   against  it.                                                               
Therefore, Amendment 3 failed by a vote of 2-5.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:31:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DAHLSTROM moved  to report  HCS CSSB  36(STA), as                                                               
amended,  out of  committee with  individual recommendations  and                                                               
the  accompanying fiscal  note.   There being  no objection,  HCS                                                               
CSSB  36(JUD)  was reported  from  the  House Judiciary  Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

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